U.S., Cuomo Open Credit Default Swap Investigation:
The U.S. government and New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo opened a joint investigation into the $34.8 trillion credit-default swap market, the top federal prosecutor in New York said
Might be a scapegoat witch hunt though for they are targeting short sellers.
Mr. Cuomo and Mr. Garcia are investigating whether investors drove up the price of swaps in transactions that were reported to data providers but never actually completed, according to people briefed on the investigation. If so, that would have helped anybody who sold short financial shares. In a short-sale, investors sell stocks they do not own in the hopes of buying them back later at a lower price.
To identify whether there was any manipulation, Mr. Cuomo’s office has issued subpoenas seeking data from various parts of the industry, including stock exchanges, investment firms and three companies involved in processing trades in swaps and stocks, according to people briefed on the inquiry.
Those firms are: the Depository Trust Clearing Corporation, which serves as the clearing agent for most financial transactions including swaps and stocks; Markit, which provides swaps data to Wall Street banks and investors; and Bloomberg, the financial data company whose electronic system is used by traders to track markets and communicate with one another
So, if this will lead to more regulation and do something structurally about this massive unregulated market....initial reports don't seem to imply that.
I still don't understand
Why selling what you do not own isn't treating like any other form of selling what you do not own- as fraud.
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they do "own" it
what they own is the derivative, just like insurance companies own the insurance policy.
shorts are a little more complex, but when they say "naked" shorts, which are supposedly illegal but not enforced, that's when the investor doesn't own the actual underlying stock, which is called a covered call.
Lehman CDSes
Appears there is another settlement on Lehman CDSes:
Seeking Alpha
The market was all abuzz about these CDS settlements, so much they tanked the market. It's not know how bad these credit default swaps are and even when nothing happens the market reacts it seems.
$600 Trillion, yes Trillion, derivatives market
in September the total notional amount of outstanding derivatives in all categories rose 15% to a mindboggling $596 TRILLION as of December 2007
This is astoundingly large derivatives market.
Especially since the GWP
Is only $65 trillion.
This market is 10x the real world wealth being created.
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GDP
u mean right?
As far as the earlier comment on whether this new wealth inequality is fictional money....eh, does it matter when they have all of the power? But, very interesting question and I honestly don't know the answer to it.
Nope, Gross World Production
US GDP is only $13 trillion.
Gross World Production is $65 trillion.
Thus, if the derivatives are in the $500-$700 trillion range, we're talking about a LOT of fake money out there that isn't based on anything at all.
"As far as the earlier comment on whether this new wealth inequality is fictional money....eh, does it matter when they have all of the power? But, very interesting question and I honestly don't know the answer to it."
If their power is based on a lie, and it becomes widely known that their power is based on a lie, then yes, it will matter when the guillotines come out.
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The Google is your friend
Nominal GDP country by country comparison.
World, ~54 trillion
US ~13.8 trillion
Most of these figures you can find by a quick search in Google, so no reason to guess.
That was my source for the US
The BIS number reported here earlier was my source for World.
I wonder if there's some too small to fit in that chart that would account for BIS being different than that chart?
At any rate, what bugs me about this is that our debt seems to completely dwarf that... by more than 10:1.
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I could have sworn our GDP
Was only $13 trillion
I'll make sure the rest of this post gets threaded correctly.
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